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hello everybody it is thursday at noon

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central time

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and i have a show in store for you

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uh we have a couple guests today a

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couple great guests we have vinnie from

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disclosure team

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uh the blind bomb show otherwise known

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as

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james engaging the phenomenon so he's

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gonna stop by too

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and we're gonna discuss all you know a

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lot of stuff's been released a lot of

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different documentaries ross cole hearts

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book

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um tom delong is gonna have a little um

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video interview with semivan

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should be pretty pretty pretty

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you know what i'm saying because i don't

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let people down

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if i do

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it's pure accident i didn't mean to

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and i apologize

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but today

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ain't gonna be no letting down and

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nobody

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so let's

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get this party

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[Music]

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hello

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oh i gotta put the new logo at the end

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screwed it up again

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oh well well without further ado i'm

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going to bring in mr vinnie from

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disclosure team how you doing i'm good

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bro how are you man good pretty good

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thanks for asking good uh we

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i think we have one more person who's

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supposed to join us uh

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no i'm not going to play it again i'm

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just i love that little tune

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i do

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but yeah yeah all right

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without further ado here comes james

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how's it going guys

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good how are you

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good good

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is my sound all right

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yeah yeah it looks like you got stronger

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good to see you james

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likewise likewise yeah so thank thanks

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for coming out guys i i thought it'd be

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interesting to get your takes on some of

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the

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like latest releases i think

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uh basic kind of made a good point to me

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that

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bad robot you you may not like the

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documentary but they put a lot of money

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into it a lot of people saw it

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um word of mouth

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more people say it talk about it

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um the more things kind of manifest

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um but what do you guys think james what

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do you think of um

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let's say the showtime doc if you've

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gotten to watch any

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i mean i didn't obviously

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the production value was was really

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awesome right i i love to see

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uh the ufo subject covered

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i mean the the soundtrack and everything

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awesome they they kind of made epic

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scenes and tried to drive a message

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but at the same time so that's what some

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people have a issue with

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is that some people feel that it's it's

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narrative driven and they're trying to

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paint a certain picture

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um some people even think it's something

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an op of some kind where

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um they're trying to spin narrative and

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i thought they did an alright job for

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what it was i think yeah the main thing

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here is it's gonna spread awareness

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um but but general generally what i see

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people's concern is is like what is that

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message

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trying to control a narrative too much

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but you know everybody has their own

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opinion on it again overall i think that

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it was they included a lot of good kind

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um i could see where they had some

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things off in the narrative but

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you know it's it's jj abrams it's not uh

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you know he's not he's not a ufo expert

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we're going to get you know his vision

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was like opted and somebody said hey jj

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abrams make sure you do this this and

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this and and script it this way i think

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he just tried to make a unique

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presentation of his own

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and that's how it came out you know he

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the areas that were talked about

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because they kind of made a few things

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seem like they were completely legit

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i get it i get it it's not

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by ufo guys for ufo guys it's

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from kind of hollywood pretty much

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making it for entertainment for the

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public and i i forget that a lot of the

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and if and if you know if let's say one

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of us made it right it i i mean some

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people are going to say holy [\h__\h] they

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just went down so many rabbit holes it's

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the public is not going to be able to

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keep up with that no exactly

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and i don't i don't mean that and and

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and like an elitist way

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it's just like they're not

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lot of things and like they'll show

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uh in passing and say a sentence about

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it and we can you know go on for two

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hours about that case yeah you know it's

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an entire it's an entire you know case

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that you have to kind of unwrap and

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that people see it

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and they say this is something real and

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it's interesting let me look further you

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know and i think that's the best that

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you can hope to come out or something

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like that yeah absolutely one thing that

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really kind of still is confusing me is

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stuff focused on lou and melon

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right yeah i was wondering i'm like why

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jj abrams they've got the money to get

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lou and ellen involved and they focused

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on lou and mellon quite a bit so why

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that's just confusing that's confusing

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that is yeah i was wondering the same

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you never really know what this stuff

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right what what their intent is or what

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they're really trying to do i think when

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was going to happen i think um as always

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at least what i observed and i was maybe

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guilty of that too um you get your hopes

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gonna be another big piece of something

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my own fault of course

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when you do that in something that you

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watch goes in such an opposite direction

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for people like a lot of people this did

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um that's pretty disappointing and

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morale can really hurt and it shouldn't

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offer something like that yeah i mean

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people should know by now that like when

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you see one of these tv productions yeah

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um anybody who's who's deep into

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research knows more than than a guy who

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producing and directing film right

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um and he's he's depending on

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people i guess to

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he's probably listening to different

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people they're giving him different

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that i can think of like other than like

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the ufo cover up live in like the 1980s

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like oh that just broke everything we've

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known as researchers right i mean it

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where it's like there's cool

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new tidbits of information and you know

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that was never seen before and that's

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as researchers but um

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you know if you're if any kind of

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mainstream production never has like a

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uh you know effect where it's like oh my

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that's right that's like you know for a

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reason from a researcher standpoint

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yeah i feel like the sorry sean i'm just

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gonna say the truth the trailer for jj

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abrams series really predominantly

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featured kevin day gary voorhees and i

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this is gonna be good yes there were a

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couple of clips of some uh

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fake or hoax

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you know ufo footage that we all

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know and that but you know i brushed

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that aside and

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yeah you know focus on the kevin day

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aspect and that and then obviously they

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were featured in it and it was a little

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the end of episode one bit of two three

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without being too much of a spoiler

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for me with the i forgot the guy's name

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the mufon guy was like

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ever ever since i got involved in this i

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idea of institutions and organizations

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true um aren't attractive to me in that

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and it wasn't a mufon meeting

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but there were people there who had

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submitted their cases

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uh like video footage and stuff to mufon

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and uh they told me like oh their stuff

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disappeared

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yeah i've heard that their stuff

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disappeared

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um

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and so from the very beginning i i was

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just like you know and i for some reason

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even with my own experiences i was never

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like i need to i need to report this to

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mufon never interesting that you say

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that because that never crossed my mind

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like reporting anything even at all yeah

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you know i for whatever reason

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yeah i never i was never like i need to

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report this to a ufo organization

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i got

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something rocking my world here a dream

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came true right that's the first part

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and then

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yeah what

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yeah no yeah so

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it's um

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you know i i'm not i'm not familiar with

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that gentleman but yeah i mean i get

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they're trying to kind of play different

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perspectives on this and

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so let me ask you this so if that's

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so at what point does something do more

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harm than good right so if it gets a lot

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of eyes and it's a big production but

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it's not done the right way and people

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leave with maybe a perspective that

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could be

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uh more destructive to truth than not

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like when is that line crossed i don't

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know i mean they just didn't need that

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real intense

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thing to happen in in episode three

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they did either just you know

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i think they that's their attempt to

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keep people in for the fourth episode be

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like there's gotta be more than this

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yeah maybe maybe right just like

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dramatic effect i don't know

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but yeah i

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it's strange i don't know yeah it was

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and then that's the episode that they

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had dodie right

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oh god

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so they i mean they were really i mean

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it's clear that with that episode they

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had they were trying to do something

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maybe it's partially lost on us i mean

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yeah but dodie brings up project serpo

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as well i mean

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yeah you're getting some real

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storytelling well yeah and it's like

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there's questions like did he create

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that right did he fabricate that

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um

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yeah yeah that episode was like a

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i i don't know it was like

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kind of the strangest of all of them

353
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and it was yeah it was

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right before the last one so

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i think

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yeah all right time to smile how about

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ross coldheart's documentary that was

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great

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oh man i see i watched that when it

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first came out

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i'm gonna have to do a snapshot of

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before and after yeah

363
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that was epic i mean that that that is

364
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kind of made by somebody like one of us

365
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right yeah um

366
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as far as i mean but except the guy was

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a 60 minutes reporter um

368
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you know

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and knows how to present the story to an

370
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audience on television really well um

371
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and it's a killer investigator yeah um

372
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and he is uh asking the right questions

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to the right people

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and being able to communicate that to an

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audience in a really powerful way i

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think um yeah so that that

377
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what is that one called the phenomenon

378
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too yeah it's the phenomenon

379
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just to keep it

380
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on just to keep us confused

381
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he did a great consistent job with

382
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calling everything uap from his book to

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the documentary

384
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oh you mean he called them ua uaps

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and the

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identified phenomenon

387
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yeah

388
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you got in there right now i love that

389
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accent though

390
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yeah me too it's fun

391
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it's awesome i think it's a good thing

392
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about his take and his documentary is

393
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the way it progressed from the start we

394
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learn about this big case in australia

395
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with the witness annie and it's the

396
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naval communications station harold e

397
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holt which is this behind me where

398
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there's that big triangular

399
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sort of craft

400
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i'd not heard that before yeah i'm live

401
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here right now just you know just been

402
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hanging with ross but he had to go and

403
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do more appearances

404
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and then it goes into the

405
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then it goes into the loo and melon type

406
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of stuff that we all

407
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you know we see a lot of um and then the

408
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way it ends or goes towards the end with

409
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the westall school case from 66. yeah

410
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really watchable the whole thing was

411
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smooth the teacher i think has gone on

412
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record yeah i think it might have been

413
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as well yeah

414
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yeah and and i i don't think he's ever

415
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come forward before so and then

416
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so that was like a big exclusive thing

417
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yeah

418
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and he you know he was silenced

419
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um

420
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yeah exactly that's why you can

421
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understand these been hesitant for quite

422
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a long time oh a very long time should

423
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we say yeah they said listen you uh

424
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you know if you think you saw what you

425
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saw you might have been drinking that's

426
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bad for your career yeah you know and

427
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they uh i think that um

428
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ross did a great job in and like showing

429
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that whole um aspect and i and and

430
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overall i'm glad he went there right i

431
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mean that's like

432
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that's roll the dice for some people

433
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it's like am i going to go that far uh

434
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and he that's the one thing i love about

435
00:16:02,629 --> 00:15:59,839
ross is like he the guy's not pulling

436
00:16:04,310 --> 00:16:02,639
any punches he's going for the story

437
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yeah um you know

438
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um from those kind of um close encounter

439
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experiences to the technology

440
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to crash retrievals

441
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i mean the guy is going for broke like

442
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genuinely he's really after the story so

443
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you know he is

444
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and he thinks there's a genuine cover-up

445
00:16:24,949 --> 00:16:22,240
you know that's interesting when when

446
00:16:28,470 --> 00:16:24,959
somebody is so good at investigating as

447
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he is and not you know just this in all

448
00:16:32,550 --> 00:16:30,000
different areas

449
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and he comes up with that conclusion

450
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um so you know it's

451
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you know not partial to any scenario

452
00:16:42,230 --> 00:16:39,759
and that's what he comes up with i mean

453
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that's powerful to me that's huge yeah

454
00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:43,519
absolutely

455
00:16:47,590 --> 00:16:45,040
yeah i think with the uh with the

456
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documentary and and the book i mean

457
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the idea is like

458
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um

459
00:16:56,069 --> 00:16:53,920
like the cover-up aspect like i think

460
00:16:59,030 --> 00:16:56,079
most people get it but he's able to

461
00:17:01,749 --> 00:16:59,040
concisely and clearly show his work yeah

462
00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:01,759
you know like for us it's like we get to

463
00:17:05,350 --> 00:17:03,600
that point and it's harder to

464
00:17:06,870 --> 00:17:05,360
communicate because you know not all of

465
00:17:08,630 --> 00:17:06,880
us are journalists

466
00:17:12,069 --> 00:17:08,640
you know how we got from a to b that you

467
00:17:13,909 --> 00:17:12,079
know categorize our investigation right

468
00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:13,919
he would be able to mean basically to

469
00:17:18,069 --> 00:17:15,919
kind of show yeah yeah well he was able

470
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to show his story in like a way where

471
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like

472
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a reader or viewer can can watch and

473
00:17:26,309 --> 00:17:25,039
like see how he came to that conclusion

474
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yeah

475
00:17:28,789 --> 00:17:27,839
oh you know

476
00:17:31,909 --> 00:17:28,799
uh

477
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is it christian that's a great point i

478
00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:34,240
just watched this before the raw stuff

479
00:17:37,750 --> 00:17:35,520
even happened

480
00:17:39,350 --> 00:17:37,760
that's so funny i have not seen that i

481
00:17:41,029 --> 00:17:39,360
mean i'm obviously familiar with robbie

482
00:17:42,630 --> 00:17:41,039
williams i'm not seeing the ross

483
00:17:44,070 --> 00:17:42,640
interview with him

484
00:17:45,669 --> 00:17:44,080
apparently yeah

485
00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:45,679
yeah that was

486
00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:47,200
that's interesting we'll have to check

487
00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:48,160
that out

488
00:17:51,510 --> 00:17:50,240
thanks chris um i think another good

489
00:17:54,070 --> 00:17:51,520
thing about ross as well is he's

490
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obviously got his sources that he cannot

491
00:17:57,990 --> 00:17:56,400
you know divulge in that but i think he

492
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gets a pass on this a little bit because

493
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of his approach to talking about the

494
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things that they've told him

495
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which he's quite forthcoming with to it

496
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to a level

497
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and

498
00:18:09,990 --> 00:18:07,840
he's obviously got good connections in

499
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the uk in australia through the military

500
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services as well as the us

501
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but he's just i don't know he's just

502
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he's just

503
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good

504
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he knows how to pull on your uh

505
00:18:26,070 --> 00:18:22,799
kind of like your emotions too like when

506
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he was with me and he went through his

507
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story about how he was younger

508
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and

509
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looked up to

510
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you know us for landing on the moon and

511
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all our accomplishes accomplishments and

512
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how that's kind of changing

513
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like

514
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that's that intent is

515
00:18:48,070 --> 00:18:45,039
to drive a point home

516
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you know and for you to get it like

517
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look everybody looked up to you and

518
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that's changing you know you know you

519
00:18:57,990 --> 00:18:54,640
need to start doing something about this

520
00:18:58,950 --> 00:18:58,000
stuff um he made a point to say how

521
00:19:02,310 --> 00:18:58,960
um

522
00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:02,320
aussie soldiers or whatever whatever

523
00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:04,320
um

524
00:19:08,549 --> 00:19:06,240
we're telling them that the americans

525
00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:08,559
are up to something basically

526
00:19:11,590 --> 00:19:10,240
you know it's us

527
00:19:15,830 --> 00:19:11,600
so

528
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if you're

529
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our government you have to save

530
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face or at least worry about like the

531
00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:23,520
complete embarrassment

532
00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:24,640
like

533
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because you you should already be

534
00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:28,320
embarrassed but now it's even going

535
00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:31,200
farther and with the internet and how

536
00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:33,440
fast everything is now they just can't

537
00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:35,520
keep it a secret

538
00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:37,440
james did you speak to ross

539
00:19:42,870 --> 00:19:40,880
i can't remember um i didn't do a

540
00:19:44,230 --> 00:19:42,880
public interview with him desperately i

541
00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:44,240
was going to say because one thing i

542
00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:45,760
like about ross is he's done quite a lot

543
00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:47,840
of interviews recently with a few of us

544
00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:49,840
and every single one is really different

545
00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:52,000
which is amazing yeah now that makes me

546
00:19:55,110 --> 00:19:53,520
think that you need to speak to him

547
00:19:56,789 --> 00:19:55,120
james because you'll get something out

548
00:19:58,549 --> 00:19:56,799
of him that no one else has because

549
00:20:00,070 --> 00:19:58,559
you've done that before with lou and

550
00:20:01,590 --> 00:20:00,080
with yeah

551
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:01,600
if there's ever another ross interview

552
00:20:07,669 --> 00:20:04,480
we need it's a james e and holy one

553
00:20:09,669 --> 00:20:07,679
i'm i'm going to

554
00:20:11,750 --> 00:20:09,679
end up interviewing him

555
00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:11,760
probably

556
00:20:15,029 --> 00:20:12,960
you know

557
00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:15,039
in october-ish when his when his book is

558
00:20:19,510 --> 00:20:16,400
coming to the us

559
00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:19,520
yeah paper sure um but yeah i've known

560
00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:22,559
i've known ross for a few years now um

561
00:20:27,669 --> 00:20:25,200
you know yeah uh and we've had a lot of

562
00:20:29,110 --> 00:20:27,679
conversations with his guy

563
00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:29,120
and i

564
00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:30,559
i

565
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[Laughter]

566
00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:45,440
good angle that's a good angle man yeah

567
00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:48,640
it just started right away i'll hit her

568
00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:51,440
he'll want to go there but um yeah yeah

569
00:20:54,950 --> 00:20:53,679
i i kind of have an idea of how

570
00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:54,960
you know

571
00:20:58,470 --> 00:20:56,400
how i want it to go and where i'm going

572
00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:58,480
to take it and then what order that

573
00:21:01,190 --> 00:20:59,600
makes sense

574
00:21:03,110 --> 00:21:01,200
he had a lot of good things to say about

575
00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:03,120
you as well james i spoke to rosford

576
00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:04,960
quite a bit before our interview bit

577
00:21:08,470 --> 00:21:06,960
after and obviously during and

578
00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:08,480
yeah your name no wonder your name comes

579
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:10,080
up in the book man he's got obviously

580
00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:11,919
got a lot of respect and follows your

581
00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:14,480
work very closely man yeah

582
00:21:18,070 --> 00:21:15,520
what was it

583
00:21:20,789 --> 00:21:18,080
and again yeah when he when he first got

584
00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:20,799
on the scene um

585
00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:22,960
or early on when he got onto the scene

586
00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:24,080
somebody

587
00:21:32,710 --> 00:21:30,400
introduced him to me right so uh it's

588
00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:32,720
most likely thanks to that unnamed

589
00:21:35,750 --> 00:21:34,480
person who probably likes to remain

590
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:35,760
unnamed

591
00:21:43,029 --> 00:21:41,350
he's a great guy he this guy does such

592
00:21:44,789 --> 00:21:43,039
incredible work

593
00:21:47,350 --> 00:21:44,799
and um

594
00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:47,360
and he he probably won't be known for a

595
00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:49,280
lot of it i mean i hope i hope one day

596
00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:52,240
he he comes more out and says yeah i did

597
00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:53,600
this and that but he's not that kind of

598
00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:54,559
guy

599
00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:55,760
yeah um

600
00:21:59,110 --> 00:21:57,440
but you know it's definitely thanks to

601
00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:59,120
him that um

602
00:22:03,669 --> 00:22:01,039
you know and obviously what i was doing

603
00:22:05,830 --> 00:22:03,679
is relevant to to the work as well but

604
00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:05,840
um you know

605
00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:07,679
things unfolded that way

606
00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:10,080
yeah well hey

607
00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:12,480
i'm glad they did um

608
00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:14,320
you know sometimes i think about all the

609
00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:16,240
different things that have to had to

610
00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:17,280
happen

611
00:22:21,430 --> 00:22:19,679
for me to be right here with you two you

612
00:22:23,590 --> 00:22:21,440
know yeah it's weird

613
00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:23,600
the story may be different for us all

614
00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:25,360
but it all

615
00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:27,520
plays out the same because like we are

616
00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:29,520
all here now especially me and you sean

617
00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:30,320
being

618
00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:32,320
a lot newer than james for example i

619
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:35,280
mean yeah it's there's mirrors that

620
00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:37,600
really mirror what we've been not been

621
00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:38,960
through but like how we got here but

622
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:41,039
then i've not had the sighting side of

623
00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:43,440
things you have so there's yeah it's

624
00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:46,559
it's crazy you're making me feel old

625
00:22:49,750 --> 00:22:47,679
nah man

626
00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:49,760
we're in this i'm the oldest anyways i'm

627
00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:52,080
the oldest yeah you're like what 45 or

628
00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:58,070
really you're 43. it was i am fully

629
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:00,240
kissing okay

630
00:23:06,070 --> 00:23:02,610
i always called vinnie uh tony stark

631
00:23:07,909 --> 00:23:06,080
[Laughter]

632
00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:07,919
yeah i didn't mind yeah i don't mind

633
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:09,200
that yeah

634
00:23:13,510 --> 00:23:11,760
i've been called all sorts haven't sean

635
00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:13,520
yeah you know what somebody somebody

636
00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:14,960
because i guess probably because of this

637
00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:16,080
shirt too

638
00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:19,120
uh in in my little zondo thing called me

639
00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:21,600
uh said hey is that captain america

640
00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:22,720
so yeah

641
00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:25,440
holy shark we got captain america

642
00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:27,760
and yes we have one for you too

643
00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:30,400
you could be doctor strange

644
00:23:34,149 --> 00:23:32,720
yeah there we go in the background you

645
00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:34,159
got the background and the colors kind

646
00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:37,280
of give me that dr strange vibe

647
00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:45,190
here we go i'm just checking out this

648
00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:47,360
comment here says dude speak to the uapx

649
00:23:51,110 --> 00:23:50,000
burning with curiosity i've spoken to

650
00:23:52,950 --> 00:23:51,120
some of them i'm speaking to some of

651
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:52,960
them tomorrow night yeah yeah you've got

652
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:54,480
that show um

653
00:23:57,990 --> 00:23:56,720
gary voorhees and jason turner tomorrow

654
00:24:02,470 --> 00:23:58,000
yeah i'm actually going to be speaking

655
00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:03,510
yeah

656
00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:04,640
just means i've got to get my science

657
00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:10,390
yeah i like it i like it

658
00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:12,480
yeah it's fun

659
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:14,240
he's really awesome he's an awesome dude

660
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:16,720
i've spoken to him just through you know

661
00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:20,000
private messaging yeah and he's a very

662
00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:22,960
bright and open-minded guy he's not like

663
00:24:27,029 --> 00:24:25,279
oh well you know this is genuine this is

664
00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:27,039
complete nonsense he's he's very

665
00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:30,400
open-minded so i'll leave at that

666
00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:32,480
um you guys want to watch robbie

667
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:34,720
williams uh

668
00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:37,039
you're not going to get copyright here

669
00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:39,200
yeah oh yeah yeah you got to be careful

670
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:40,720
about those right don't don't get a

671
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:43,840
copyright strike copyright strike

672
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:46,799
copyright

673
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:48,159
speed or something

674
00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:49,440
yeah right

675
00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:52,000
all right i will

676
00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:53,840
i just don't want you to get

677
00:24:57,909 --> 00:24:55,520
yeah they'll they'll get you for that

678
00:25:13,110 --> 00:24:57,919
man they will man i like those kind of

679
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,470
not right

680
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:16,320
i was gonna say that

681
00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:18,400
he was having a bad day there that was

682
00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:19,679
great

683
00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:20,559
wow

684
00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:21,919
i can't believe

685
00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:24,320
he can tell that and not cry that's a

686
00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:26,480
powerful story

687
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:28,159
i've heard him talk about it a long time

688
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:31,840
ago he was yeah yeah oh you have okay

689
00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:34,000
yeah oh yeah i mean just he's british

690
00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:35,760
isn't he so he's all over the media here

691
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:37,039
has been for the past

692
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:39,200
30 years pretty much but let me ask you

693
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:41,279
guys what like was your

694
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:43,360
not to go backwards but to go backwards

695
00:25:49,029 --> 00:25:45,679
what was your favorite part of

696
00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:51,110
i know that's hard to say but was there

697
00:25:56,149 --> 00:25:53,200
a moment where you're like man this is

698
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:56,159
good like the first time you're like

699
00:26:00,310 --> 00:25:58,080
this is good oh man

700
00:26:01,830 --> 00:26:00,320
i mean even i made that that small

701
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:01,840
little graphic

702
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:03,440
um yes

703
00:26:07,909 --> 00:26:05,679
and i just like i mean just there's just

704
00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:07,919
stuff like that all throughout the book

705
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:09,039
where

706
00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:11,760
i i loved the way he framed that idea

707
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:13,120
and then questioned

708
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:15,120
and i had the whole you know ended with

709
00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:16,960
at the end of the chapter with in plain

710
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:18,000
sight

711
00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:20,080
um where he's basically saying you know

712
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:22,720
that the extraterrestrial hypothesis

713
00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:25,679
albeit a very confronting one

714
00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:27,039
um

715
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:29,679
is that even able to explain some of the

716
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:32,240
high strangeness that we're seeing

717
00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:34,720
and he i think recently he said no you

718
00:26:38,070 --> 00:26:35,919
know he doesn't think that the

719
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:38,080
extraterrestrial hypothesis is even the

720
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:39,600
most likely

721
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:42,960
um i think he thinks again probably it's

722
00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:45,600
you know who are we to define something

723
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:47,600
that we don't know or understand kind of

724
00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:48,320
thing

725
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:50,159
yeah absolutely so there are different

726
00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:51,679
points like that throughout the book

727
00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:53,919
where he he raises fundamental questions

728
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:55,760
that people should be asking

729
00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:56,720
you know

730
00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:57,520
uh

731
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:59,279
and and he does it in such a great way

732
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:01,200
in the context of the whole history of

733
00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:03,760
the subject

734
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:05,520
so

735
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:07,760
you know to nail down one favorite part

736
00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:12,070
oh man

737
00:27:18,830 --> 00:27:14,480
okay i'll say my favorite part of the

738
00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:21,350
yeah no no but

739
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:23,279
the whole book is awesome man

740
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:26,159
and um yeah i mean for me like

741
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:26,960
yeah

742
00:27:30,389 --> 00:27:28,720
the whole book is awesome it is and it's

743
00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:30,399
hard to find one i'm normally quite good

744
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:31,760
at pulling something out that i really

745
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:33,520
like from whether it be a series a book

746
00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:34,480
or anything

747
00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:36,480
this one is pretty much impossible i

748
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:38,240
think one thing i have found really

749
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:40,320
compelling that he's talked about

750
00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:42,640
is the the fast walkers the the

751
00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:44,480
satellites capturing these things coming

752
00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:46,840
in from space and stuff

753
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:48,799
um yeah he's talked about it in depth in

754
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:50,880
a few interviews and that for me is

755
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:52,720
something that we've only really heard

756
00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:54,960
here and there and ross is just talking

757
00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:57,279
about it and that's amazing you know

758
00:28:02,789 --> 00:27:59,520
he talks about everything

759
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:02,799
yeah yes he does everything yeah he does

760
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:05,279
no punches pulled he really does and you

761
00:28:08,789 --> 00:28:06,880
know um

762
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:08,799
there was an older documentary from i

763
00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:11,600
believe maybe 2010 called fast walkers

764
00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:12,640
yeah

765
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:14,840
um really good one it's a really solid

766
00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:16,799
one um

767
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:18,640
it gets a little bit into the fast

768
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:21,360
walkers but then i know

769
00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:23,200
probably all of us have seen that nasa

770
00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:25,520
video right where it's like it looks

771
00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:27,120
like it's coming i think it's a nasty

772
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:29,440
video it's coming slowly it's coming

773
00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:31,360
slowly it's coming slowly

774
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:32,880
and then you see it like slowing down

775
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:34,720
then you see a beam come and it just

776
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:36,799
flies off come in the other direction

777
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:37,679
yeah

778
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:41,919
that video i mean that video is

779
00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:43,120
incredible

780
00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:45,360
was that from the 90s do you know no i

781
00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:47,360
think it's newer isn't it oh it's newer

782
00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:48,159
um

783
00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:50,640
i don't know where you're from

784
00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:56,950
i don't you know there's used to be this

785
00:29:02,230 --> 00:28:59,039
really cool this is like a side tangent

786
00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:02,240
but there used to be this really cool um

787
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:04,480
like nasa hidden footage

788
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:07,279
documentary that i saw on youtube like

789
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:08,960
years and years ago i don't know i don't

790
00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:11,039
remember what year was but it was like

791
00:29:15,269 --> 00:29:13,520
three hours and there's someone

792
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:15,279
i can't even remember and he's talking

793
00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:17,279
and to have all these videos i have like

794
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:19,120
the ted the famous tether video and all

795
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:20,480
that and i i don't know what to make of

796
00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:23,679
that one but that one where that that um

797
00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:26,240
you know object comes in and then a beam

798
00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:28,559
just goes right at it

799
00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:30,320
and then it goes off into the other

800
00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:31,679
direction i've heard somebody say oh

801
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:32,880
that's like oh that's like an ice

802
00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:34,480
particle or something it's like okay so

803
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:37,919
what the hell was that beam then

804
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:39,520
was it trying to shoot the ice particle

805
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:43,990
that video i think is i think there's

806
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:45,600
something to that video

807
00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:47,840
robert's got a point here too

808
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:50,080
uh with the fret fast track says radar

809
00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:51,600
convergence yeah

810
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:53,600
crossing of beams

811
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:55,760
got a document on that one

812
00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:57,760
it's pretty good for the next dock of

813
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:01,200
the day maybe faster nice

814
00:30:05,430 --> 00:30:03,600
yeah well yeah now and you know

815
00:30:07,029 --> 00:30:05,440
there's the talk about and you know

816
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:07,039
leslie keane's article we were going to

817
00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:09,440
talk about that got into this you know

818
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:11,360
satellite imagery

819
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:12,880
um

820
00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:15,919
and uh you know we know

821
00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:17,200
uh

822
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:19,360
christopher mellon has repeatedly talked

823
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:22,480
about um the satellite data

824
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:24,480
um and uh

825
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:26,880
of course john ratcliffe had mentioned

826
00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:27,840
it

827
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:29,120
and

828
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:33,440
tyler

829
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:35,440
from american cosmic

830
00:30:39,029 --> 00:30:36,640
yeah

831
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:39,039
you know he deals with satellites he's a

832
00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:40,880
space guy

833
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:42,559
uh so there's definitely a connection

834
00:30:47,669 --> 00:30:45,520
there and and oh danny silva uh

835
00:30:49,830 --> 00:30:47,679
i believe yeah he published your gumster

836
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:49,840
yeah he did an article on satellites and

837
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:50,960
ufos

838
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:51,760
yeah

839
00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:53,120
still not been talked about enough in

840
00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:55,520
the past let's say four years since

841
00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:57,519
2017. i think it's only recent really

842
00:31:01,350 --> 00:31:00,080
now that more people are questioning

843
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:01,360
surely there's got to be satellite

844
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:04,240
footage of this and that and all sorts

845
00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:06,240
i've been sitting on this for a while

846
00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:09,039
nro has so many saddles

847
00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:09,840
yeah

848
00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:11,600
you know

849
00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:14,880
mostly subcontractors working for them

850
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:18,080
you know and their budget is shady the

851
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:20,559
nro is a big one i mean they were super

852
00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:23,440
they're ultra secret i mean they're

853
00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:25,120
you know almost more secret than than

854
00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:26,559
that nsa

855
00:31:30,149 --> 00:31:28,559
they're all over this satellite stuff

856
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:30,159
since um

857
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:32,880
uh ox cart basically you know

858
00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:34,399
yeah they've been in

859
00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:35,840
and yeah

860
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:38,159
people and you know um

861
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:40,320
enough people love them or hate them

862
00:31:43,909 --> 00:31:41,440
uh

863
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:43,919
or indifferent dr steven greer

864
00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:46,480
he he had been talking about the nro for

865
00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:48,720
since you know since he came in in the

866
00:31:53,509 --> 00:31:52,080
90s yeah oh wow um

867
00:31:54,789 --> 00:31:53,519
it's but you know you got to go through

868
00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:54,799
all his

869
00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:57,440
his old talks and stuff but he he brings

870
00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:59,120
up the nro

871
00:32:02,630 --> 00:32:00,799
good stuff in my opinion though that's

872
00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,640
his good work that's his better work

873
00:32:06,389 --> 00:32:04,240
should i say yeah

874
00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:06,399
so i i i've done all that i'm happy to

875
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:08,880
do it again yeah and then

876
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:09,760
getting

877
00:32:15,509 --> 00:32:12,240
um i don't want to say i'm over the

878
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:15,519
frustrated part for whatever reason

879
00:32:19,029 --> 00:32:17,279
i've kind of feel like i've come back

880
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:19,039
around to

881
00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:21,840
um hopefully you know people change

882
00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:23,919
maybe that'll happen here everyone

883
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:26,480
should be afforded that ability to

884
00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:29,760
yeah um to change things and

885
00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:31,840
so but that's up to him and there's so

886
00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:34,240
much more to it that i don't even know

887
00:32:38,149 --> 00:32:36,080
about it there is

888
00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:38,159
there is and i i almost want to say like

889
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:39,919
none of that even matters because of

890
00:32:43,909 --> 00:32:42,000
what he has already done and that's i

891
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:43,919
mean what he's already contributed over

892
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:45,120
the years

893
00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:47,600
is is good enough it's more than i'll

894
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:48,720
ever do

895
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:49,760
um

896
00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:51,760
i mean the guy

897
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:52,559
he

898
00:32:57,990 --> 00:32:55,679
yeah

899
00:32:59,269 --> 00:32:58,000
there's a lot of i mean again i don't i

900
00:33:01,430 --> 00:32:59,279
don't know if we'd be here i don't know

901
00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:01,440
if there'd be a to the stars academy

902
00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:03,279
there might have not been an awesome and

903
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:04,880
a tip if it were not for what he was

904
00:33:09,029 --> 00:33:07,600
doing back then yeah you know

905
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:09,039
potentially

906
00:33:13,509 --> 00:33:11,200
that's the thing i think the focus as

907
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:13,519
well uh you know a few months ago was

908
00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:16,240
the whole grille thing

909
00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:18,159
now what's what's really capturing me

910
00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:20,640
about the the negative aspect is the

911
00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:24,240
infighting within our community the the

912
00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:26,000
let's say lesser researchers than these

913
00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:27,200
big names

914
00:33:31,029 --> 00:33:29,760
it's just gotten to a boiling point at

915
00:33:33,029 --> 00:33:31,039
the moment i don't know if you guys see

916
00:33:35,509 --> 00:33:33,039
it all over twitter i don't understand

917
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:35,519
what it's all about why people get so

918
00:33:39,909 --> 00:33:37,600
i don't yeah i don't see it so much

919
00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:39,919
because i just

920
00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:41,919
i don't cling on to it man i just like

921
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:44,880
let it roll off and then i do i don't i

922
00:33:49,509 --> 00:33:46,799
i but i do read it to see what people

923
00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:51,909
i catch myself reacting sometimes

924
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:55,200
because i think oftentimes um

925
00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:58,080
maybe not intentionally but people on

926
00:34:02,950 --> 00:33:59,679
twitter seem to come off really

927
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:02,960
condescending yeah so when you're doing

928
00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:06,000
that and you may not know it and without

929
00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:07,600
you know your personality behind it

930
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:11,119
there's no context so like me i'm dry

931
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:12,320
and i'm

932
00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:14,240
you know smart ass so sometimes my

933
00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:16,800
tweets come off like i don't mean them

934
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:17,839
you know

935
00:34:20,470 --> 00:34:19,679
and i know of other people who do that

936
00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:20,480
too

937
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:22,639
and in this subject everything's so

938
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:25,200
sensitive everyone wants to be so right

939
00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:26,320
when it's

940
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:29,280
almost the most impossible thing to be

941
00:34:31,829 --> 00:34:30,480
right at

942
00:34:34,149 --> 00:34:31,839
right you're talking about people who

943
00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:34,159
are passionate right they're invested

944
00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:36,480
and they feel betrayed yeah and they

945
00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:38,960
feel like they're on a mission to kind

946
00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:41,599
of break this to to you know

947
00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:43,359
so i you know

948
00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:45,280
i get it um

949
00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:48,720
but yeah some people they um

950
00:34:52,710 --> 00:34:50,079
they make that a lot of part of their

951
00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:52,720
day i guess and uh yeah you gotta focus

952
00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:54,480
on you gotta be constructive

953
00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:57,280
yeah do what we're doing come together

954
00:35:01,349 --> 00:34:59,280
talk about things everyone's different

955
00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:01,359
right everyone can do their own thing

956
00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:02,880
and that's okay and that should be

957
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:05,359
supported but as long as it's

958
00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:06,960
um not

959
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:08,800
you know i just again the condescending

960
00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:10,960
or attacking stuff and it's both ways

961
00:35:13,990 --> 00:35:11,760
like

962
00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:14,000
there's people from each side who do

963
00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:15,680
that stuff and

964
00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:17,680
yeah there's no one

965
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:18,800
i've just seen a comment here are you

966
00:35:21,829 --> 00:35:20,320
guys talking about green street we're

967
00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:21,839
definitely not talking about one person

968
00:35:27,430 --> 00:35:23,760
in particular we are just talking about

969
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:27,440
what is tea every day it's a mixture of

970
00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:30,400
50 50 good and bad and it's infighting

971
00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:33,200
and it's a waste of time it is it is a

972
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:34,720
waste of time

973
00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:36,160
you know so

974
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:37,040
um

975
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:38,720
what do you guys want to fight about i

976
00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:40,400
got a good topic

977
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:42,480
don't go for it let's go

978
00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:45,599
uh how are you wearing an american flag

979
00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:48,800
on your shirt when they just lie to us

980
00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:50,800
again

981
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:52,400
i'm totally good i really like the

982
00:36:02,150 --> 00:35:54,800
material i'm just kidding

983
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:03,510
i don't even listen to the stones

984
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:05,520
anymore so that's fine

985
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:07,440
no but you know that that is a great

986
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:08,800
question though it's like you know i

987
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:11,280
don't think you know um i don't know

988
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:12,960
maybe in our community it's like okay

989
00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:13,760
well

990
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:16,640
you know um the us government has been

991
00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:18,720
kind of um

992
00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:21,920
looked at as the gatekeepers of the ufo

993
00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:24,640
cover-up totally and i

994
00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:27,680
they probably are and you can argue if

995
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:29,359
that's for a good or bad reason i know

996
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:30,960
again you have

997
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:33,200
you know greer dr greer saying they're

998
00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:35,920
doing all this it's they're trying to

999
00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:37,520
kind of

1000
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:40,800
hold everything in place and um

1001
00:36:45,430 --> 00:36:42,560
you know it's it's been

1002
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:45,440
delegated to this secret group of people

1003
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:47,200
now who have their own agendas whether

1004
00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:50,160
they're uh political or religious or

1005
00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:51,440
selfish

1006
00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:54,560
uh and then you have people like tom

1007
00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:57,520
delong who says well you know what

1008
00:37:01,270 --> 00:36:59,680
uh they had a justified reason for doing

1009
00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:01,280
this and they painted themselves into a

1010
00:37:03,910 --> 00:37:02,160
box

1011
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:03,920
they're trying to slowly some of them

1012
00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:05,520
are trying to slowly

1013
00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:07,920
get out of this box some of them are too

1014
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:09,920
scared to try

1015
00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:11,200
um

1016
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:13,839
and it's all relevant it is all relevant

1017
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:14,880
um

1018
00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:17,040
and i you know none of us have the right

1019
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:19,760
answer right um if

1020
00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:21,440
any of us were in that position would we

1021
00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:22,720
have done the same thing or different

1022
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:24,960
who knows you know sure

1023
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:25,920
um

1024
00:37:29,829 --> 00:37:27,520
that's something we don't often think

1025
00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:29,839
about is all the like everything that we

1026
00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:32,960
go through as a as a person as a human

1027
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:35,119
has an effect on

1028
00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:37,839
everything we do our actions uh who we

1029
00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:41,040
become our attitude you know and without

1030
00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:43,040
knowing all those little things that

1031
00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:44,960
someone has been through to make them

1032
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:46,240
who you are

1033
00:37:51,190 --> 00:37:48,800
um you can't really understand

1034
00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:51,200
why people do certain things you know

1035
00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:53,119
that's a very um

1036
00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:55,440
uh buddhist way of looking at things oh

1037
00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:57,440
i'm sorry

1038
00:38:02,310 --> 00:37:59,599
i don't know

1039
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:02,320
but the um self analysis

1040
00:38:06,069 --> 00:38:04,480
perspective of dharma right

1041
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:06,079
self-investigation

1042
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:08,640
you know looking at the root uh cause

1043
00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:11,520
and effect of our actions and right

1044
00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:14,160
yeah it's very true so yeah i think just

1045
00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:16,000
in general even though it's way easier

1046
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:17,760
said than done and i'm not always the

1047
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:20,480
best at it but acceptance

1048
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:23,760
um without conflict you know in

1049
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:25,760
understanding that we are all different

1050
00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:28,079
that way but i always say like what

1051
00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:30,320
makes us the same is that we are all

1052
00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:32,960
different you know yeah

1053
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:33,839
so

1054
00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:36,240
but we have a question here actually if

1055
00:38:41,109 --> 00:38:38,720
somebody wants to take a stab

1056
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:41,119
jared thank you very much um how much

1057
00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:42,720
longer can we afford to wait for

1058
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:45,280
disclosure the country is collapsing and

1059
00:38:49,510 --> 00:38:46,960
the world is on fire we need the truth

1060
00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:49,520
asap thanks for the convo

1061
00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:50,960
yeah and that's that's another one of

1062
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:53,200
those arguments right and uh when i had

1063
00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:55,440
that uh

1064
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:57,839
gentleman andrew bustamante on my my

1065
00:39:01,270 --> 00:39:00,240
podcast he's a former cia intelligence

1066
00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:01,280
officer

1067
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:02,320
you know

1068
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:04,800
he was of the opinion

1069
00:39:07,349 --> 00:39:06,240
um and again i'm not saying he's right

1070
00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:07,359
or wrong this is just a different

1071
00:39:10,069 --> 00:39:08,560
perspective

1072
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:10,079
his opinion

1073
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:12,480
was that letting it let's just

1074
00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:14,880
hypothesize it's aliens from another

1075
00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:16,880
world and they're coming to visit us so

1076
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:18,720
if we were to just unleash that on the

1077
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:20,160
american public

1078
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:21,760
you know for an example since i got the

1079
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:24,640
uh where am i here there it is

1080
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:26,400
that it would

1081
00:39:31,829 --> 00:39:28,960
even though it has potential to be good

1082
00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:31,839
the the potential um for

1083
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:34,960
you know for catastrophe

1084
00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:37,359
you know outweighs the the possibility

1085
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:39,599
for like you know humans come together

1086
00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:44,630
he's kind of like uh

1087
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:47,520
i don't want to say pessimistic but like

1088
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:50,640
you know that in insecurity and and

1089
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:52,880
intelligence you always move caution is

1090
00:40:00,069 --> 00:39:56,800
always the the baseline so you always go

1091
00:40:02,230 --> 00:40:00,079
in expecting the worst yeah

1092
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:02,240
you have to right so um because that's

1093
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:04,079
your job you're tasked with you know

1094
00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:06,079
preventing those things from occurring

1095
00:40:10,309 --> 00:40:08,240
um so that was his perspective you know

1096
00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:10,319
and somebody like um again i'm

1097
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:12,319
mentioning again here dr greer his

1098
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:13,920
perspective is like dude we're

1099
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:16,240
destroying this planet

1100
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:17,200
um

1101
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:19,599
we're destroying the environment and we

1102
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:20,560
have

1103
00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:23,520
a very finite time before we're past the

1104
00:40:28,150 --> 00:40:26,079
point of no return yeah and this is a

1105
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:28,160
message um that comes through

1106
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:29,760
experiencers

1107
00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:32,240
um i've had dreams about it

1108
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:33,200
um

1109
00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:34,480
where

1110
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:36,560
yeah there's there's bad scenarios that

1111
00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:38,480
that can occur if we don't start

1112
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:41,040
changing not not only say disclosure of

1113
00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:43,040
ufos but

1114
00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:44,319
like

1115
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:47,040
we're so caught up in our in the again

1116
00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:48,640
like people would say the daily news

1117
00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:50,160
cycle that we're not looking at these

1118
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:53,359
bigger pictures um like climate change

1119
00:40:58,470 --> 00:40:56,400
or whatever to find solutions

1120
00:41:00,870 --> 00:40:58,480
and we're like just our our head is in

1121
00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:00,880
the sand on the big issues

1122
00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:03,280
and that that could lead us into a very

1123
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:04,480
bad place

1124
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:06,720
um so you have kind of

1125
00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:08,800
both those sides of the spectrum

1126
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:09,680
of

1127
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:12,160
like you know if you know damned if you

1128
00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:14,640
do damned if you don't yeah personally

1129
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:17,680
my my own philosophy is if i'm gonna be

1130
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:19,520
damned it's gonna be for doing

1131
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:21,599
yeah um so that's that's just my own

1132
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:23,200
philosophy you know

1133
00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:24,800
engaging the phenomenon you know i'll

1134
00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:26,240
play with fire

1135
00:41:31,589 --> 00:41:28,560
no absolutely man i saw a good article

1136
00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:31,599
today by the room that's all i'm saying

1137
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:33,200
there was a good article bryce abel did

1138
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:35,200
today about disclosure and about the

1139
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:36,160
things that were happening with the

1140
00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:38,000
planet and the war and climate change

1141
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:39,920
and that so i recommend anybody go and

1142
00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:41,280
read that because that was something we

1143
00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:42,319
needed to

1144
00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:44,319
i think i didn't see that and see that

1145
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:45,359
came out

1146
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:47,040
i think i posted it a couple of hours

1147
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:48,960
ago so it's quite quite new and really

1148
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:51,040
interesting it just go look let's talk

1149
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:52,960
about it no i don't mean us i mean i

1150
00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:54,640
think he was just of the point let's

1151
00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:56,640
bring it all out there climate change

1152
00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:59,119
war it's ramping up again both of those

1153
00:42:02,230 --> 00:42:00,560
things are ramping up

1154
00:42:05,349 --> 00:42:02,240
let's let's deal with it let's tackle

1155
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:05,359
that well and and joseph burks uh who i

1156
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:07,200
have on my on my channel you know i'm

1157
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:09,200
gonna have him continuously

1158
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:11,920
um you know he was a a peace and social

1159
00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:15,359
justice activist um so

1160
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:18,400
uh he saw um

1161
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:21,599
the contact initiatives c5 initiative

1162
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:23,440
as a way to

1163
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:24,720
kind of

1164
00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:26,800
forward those other movements you know

1165
00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:29,119
to kind of bring that into the thing of

1166
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:31,119
you know

1167
00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:33,119
if we have if we're being engaged by

1168
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:35,920
this other intelligence we should have a

1169
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:38,960
peaceful lazeon or liaison to them

1170
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:39,920
um

1171
00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:42,960
and and somehow try to segue that with

1172
00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:45,680
you know our own sovereign nations

1173
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:48,319
yeah um and it's pretty easy

1174
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:49,200
something

1175
00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:52,720
yeah yeah no not easy stuff yeah yeah

1176
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,800
it's incredible especially with this

1177
00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:56,000
stuff like

1178
00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:03,670
and when it comes to the uap stuff it's

1179
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:05,520
like look other countries have

1180
00:43:10,069 --> 00:43:08,240
kind of tried to push on this issue and

1181
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:10,079
and the you know the use is just like

1182
00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:11,520
you know

1183
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:12,720
i know i don't want to say they're not

1184
00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:13,760
doing it because they're they're playing

1185
00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:16,079
a game really right um

1186
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:19,119
it's true so they've there's been i

1187
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:21,280
guess controlled leaks right to an

1188
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:23,280
extent i i

1189
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:26,880
they're playing some kind of game and um

1190
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:29,280
maybe it's like like they're trying to

1191
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:30,480
slowly

1192
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:32,400
acclimate but they're doing something

1193
00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:34,480
and i think grant cameron's analysis of

1194
00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:35,920
that is best

1195
00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:37,920
because other countries just say zip

1196
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:39,440
about it they don't acknowledge it

1197
00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:40,400
nothing

1198
00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:42,400
it's true the u.s is doing something

1199
00:43:44,950 --> 00:43:43,599
really funny

1200
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:44,960
um

1201
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:47,280
and again here you know tom delong he's

1202
00:43:49,750 --> 00:43:48,640
going to be on later tonight that's

1203
00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:49,760
going to be

1204
00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:50,800
crazy

1205
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:54,400
even talk

1206
00:43:59,670 --> 00:43:56,480
no every time he starts somebody like

1207
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:01,349
there's a i'm not going to go there i'm

1208
00:44:08,309 --> 00:44:06,630
some stuff like that

1209
00:44:09,910 --> 00:44:08,319
um

1210
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:09,920
but yeah that's gonna be that's gonna be

1211
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:12,079
real interesting and you know

1212
00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:13,280
uh

1213
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:17,200
i hope jim semivan

1214
00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:20,400
is is uh more forthcoming in that in

1215
00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:22,319
that talk tonight well i think a good

1216
00:44:25,349 --> 00:44:23,839
thing as well is that they really said

1217
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:25,359
you know they've they put it out there

1218
00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:27,359
like please send us your questions so i

1219
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:29,359
think the people that are gonna send

1220
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:31,119
questions in gonna send some pretty

1221
00:44:35,109 --> 00:44:32,880
powerful questions

1222
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:35,119
tom better be prepared to

1223
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:36,880
you know

1224
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:39,040
yeah i mean

1225
00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:40,240
and i know it's not going to be

1226
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:42,319
wishy-washy it's going to be intense

1227
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:45,520
stuff should have a little bit of a

1228
00:44:49,829 --> 00:44:47,760
i don't want to say soapbox but

1229
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:49,839
a little bit of a pedestal for how far

1230
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:52,160
he's taken this i i mean i know the

1231
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:54,800
company didn't work out and

1232
00:44:57,510 --> 00:44:56,160
some of the things didn't come to

1233
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:57,520
fruition

1234
00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:00,000
but the guy has taken this

1235
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:03,040
so far off of his

1236
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:04,400
um hustle

1237
00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:06,079
skills basically

1238
00:45:09,589 --> 00:45:07,200
which

1239
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:09,599
you know that he's learned in working

1240
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:11,680
blink 182 and getting them to where they

1241
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:14,240
are i know that game you know

1242
00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:16,560
yeah i know how you get to the top there

1243
00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:19,440
and he was playing that game perfectly

1244
00:45:22,870 --> 00:45:20,720
for his band

1245
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:22,880
and he did it here too

1246
00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:25,760
and it was for a good cause you know

1247
00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:27,920
yeah well and again it's it's like

1248
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:29,599
steven grier 2.0 it's like the

1249
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:31,520
disclosure project

1250
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:35,359
uh reformatted and he he did uh have a

1251
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:37,440
relationship with dr greer

1252
00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:38,960
um

1253
00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:41,680
and he saw what he was doing and he

1254
00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:44,000
recreated it in his own vision in a new

1255
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:46,079
day and age kind of thing true um

1256
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:47,520
there's you know

1257
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:49,119
for sure you know

1258
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:50,480
he was holding out to the witness

1259
00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:53,280
testimony for for steven career

1260
00:45:57,109 --> 00:45:54,240
you know

1261
00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:57,119
um and and tom had all these connections

1262
00:46:01,430 --> 00:46:00,400
he's a superstar you know yeah um

1263
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:01,440
and

1264
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:02,640
you know

1265
00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:04,720
what's your name again

1266
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:06,319
yeah there we go

1267
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:09,200
i was gonna say i was to take off your

1268
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:11,200
shirt jacket or pants and jack adam oh

1269
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:13,920
yeah which song is that um it's the name

1270
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:16,000
of an album because dude i remember

1271
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:18,160
listening to it you know yeah

1272
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:19,280
yeah ago

1273
00:46:23,109 --> 00:46:20,880
it was the album with the nurse on it

1274
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:23,119
that's the one i hadn't would listen to

1275
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:25,200
oh there's one kind of more sad song on

1276
00:46:33,910 --> 00:46:31,990
i had all of his stuff even early on

1277
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:33,920
because my sister was into punk rock

1278
00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:36,640
music and the first album that they did

1279
00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:38,319
blink 182 when they had the different

1280
00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:40,480
drummer or whatever that was a punk rock

1281
00:46:46,390 --> 00:46:43,760
more punk rock album right um

1282
00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:46,400
but yeah enough about the music you know

1283
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:48,800
he did the alien song um

1284
00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:51,119
but i mean the big elephant in the room

1285
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:52,560
and it's there's no way it's not getting

1286
00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:54,400
asses the wikileaks

1287
00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:59,750
yeah mccaslin you know the you know it

1288
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:01,200
was the height of the cold war and we

1289
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:03,599
found a life form i mean what the hell

1290
00:47:07,670 --> 00:47:05,839
who says it and you can't say anything

1291
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:07,680
else

1292
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:10,640
i mean i can't imagine that mccaslin or

1293
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,720
or you know whoever

1294
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:14,640
the general was

1295
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:16,720
who said that to him um

1296
00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:19,119
imagine that that i think that that

1297
00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:21,440
whoever that was was having like a

1298
00:47:25,109 --> 00:47:23,040
coming to jesus moment when they met

1299
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:25,119
with tom delonge

1300
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:27,599
like assuming that somehow some point in

1301
00:47:31,829 --> 00:47:30,240
time that that story is going to be told

1302
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:31,839
there's no way that

1303
00:47:37,270 --> 00:47:35,920
story is not being told it can't be left

1304
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:37,280
alone

1305
00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:40,880
interesting that's the biggest i mean

1306
00:47:45,349 --> 00:47:43,280
come to jesus kind of moment yeah yeah

1307
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:45,359
that's a huge tremendous it's not just

1308
00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:47,359
like oh this is some kind of drone

1309
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:48,800
technology there's they're talking about

1310
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:51,200
a life form

1311
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:53,280
but then again you have tom delong and

1312
00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:54,319
he's

1313
00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:56,800
you never know what his advisors are

1314
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:58,000
telling him

1315
00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:00,240
uh and which direction they're nudging

1316
00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:02,400
him and what are his own

1317
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:03,920
his own beliefs

1318
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:05,760
right um you know because you see on his

1319
00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:08,640
bookshelf he's got the um

1320
00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:10,800
uh who's that guy uh

1321
00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:12,800
that that

1322
00:48:18,950 --> 00:48:16,800
that conspiracy thursday yeah

1323
00:48:21,670 --> 00:48:18,960
no no jim morris jamar's yes jim mars

1324
00:48:23,430 --> 00:48:21,680
too and i love doing more gold work yeah

1325
00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:23,440
he's done a lot of good work he did a

1326
00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:24,720
lot of good work should i say thing

1327
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:27,040
about jim mars i watched uh tom delong

1328
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:29,520
interview a long long long time he was

1329
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:30,480
young

1330
00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:31,760
and um

1331
00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:33,599
somebody asked him like if you were to

1332
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:34,960
recommend a book or something to

1333
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:36,079
somebody new

1334
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:37,680
and wants to look into this what would

1335
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:39,920
you recommend he goes i'll just

1336
00:48:43,750 --> 00:48:42,000
recommend a jim mars book because it

1337
00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:43,760
kind of has everything and if you can

1338
00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:49,589
everyone's asking where we can watch it

1339
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:51,359
it's actually on dr brian keating's

1340
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,079
channel tonight or sorry later today

1341
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:56,400
depending where you are it is going to

1342
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:57,599
feature kurt from theories for

1343
00:49:00,549 --> 00:48:58,800
everything but it's not on the theories

1344
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:00,559
of everything channel it's on dr brian

1345
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:03,040
keating's youtube channel so just so you

1346
00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:04,640
guys i wonder why you can't find it

1347
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:06,640
later go and check out doctor everyone's

1348
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:08,640
policy of net telling people listen guys

1349
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:10,240
i'm afraid i've got to dip out because

1350
00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:11,520
i've got to go and put my daughter to

1351
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:13,359
bed

1352
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:15,200
if you're still back on in like 20

1353
00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:16,559
minutes half an hour i'll happily jump

1354
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:18,559
back in but if not

1355
00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:20,640
yeah just cross that excuse off the list

1356
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:22,160
and you can move on to the next one for

1357
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:27,670
american sarcastic humor it's all good

1358
00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:30,480
man i'm used to it

1359
00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:31,280
yeah

1360
00:49:40,910 --> 00:49:39,910
that's very uh you know new york

1361
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:40,920
sarcasm

1362
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:48,470
oh no i'm milwaukee yeah we're we're so

1363
00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:52,240
cruel here in new york i don't know why

1364
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:54,160
i just love the dry sense of humor it's

1365
00:49:57,510 --> 00:49:56,240
probably just watching so much like

1366
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:57,520
something that's not very good i'm good

1367
00:50:02,150 --> 00:49:59,440
your shirt is too bright i got a white

1368
00:50:02,890 --> 00:50:02,160
t-shirt on how is that too bright

1369
00:50:04,309 --> 00:50:02,900
thanks jack

1370
00:50:06,309 --> 00:50:04,319
[Laughter]

1371
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:06,319
i'll get a brighter one like a lime

1372
00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:07,440
green

1373
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:09,920
vinny hey always a pleasure james hey if

1374
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:13,200
you're still on i'll jump back on yeah

1375
00:50:17,670 --> 00:50:14,880
speech in a little bit all right peace

1376
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:17,680
out see you later bye-bye cool

1377
00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:19,359
all right so yeah where were we now

1378
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:21,119
we're talking about time to long oh yeah

1379
00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:22,880
so he actually i think he recommended in

1380
00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:26,240
that video the the book rule by secrecy

1381
00:50:30,790 --> 00:50:28,480
and that's actually a really

1382
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:30,800
cool book um i don't i wouldn't

1383
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:32,400
recommend it nowadays to a ufo

1384
00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:33,839
researcher because

1385
00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:35,760
it's like so rabbit holy and it gets

1386
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:38,240
into secret societies and saint germain

1387
00:50:42,630 --> 00:50:38,880
and

1388
00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:42,640
yeah really it's

1389
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:44,559
it's i mean it's an interesting book i

1390
00:50:48,790 --> 00:50:46,720
wouldn't sound like

1391
00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:48,800
well in like the 90s like you could fit

1392
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:51,200
that in with the kind of ufo subject

1393
00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:52,880
because it went on with the conferences

1394
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:55,200
and it showed how people were ruling

1395
00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:57,760
through secret powers and and um

1396
00:51:02,710 --> 00:51:00,960
like uh secret societies and stuff right

1397
00:51:04,309 --> 00:51:02,720
and those secret societies their belief

1398
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:04,319
systems and why they believed in what

1399
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:05,760
they did and what they were doing and

1400
00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:07,040
how they would

1401
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:08,559
you know

1402
00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:11,920
rule by secrecy yeah um but i ask you

1403
00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:14,319
something a little off topic

1404
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:16,559
sure i was gonna yeah nothing

1405
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:17,920
you can finish

1406
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:19,119
yeah

1407
00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:23,119
but jim yes hold that hold that again um

1408
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:26,480
jim maher's book alien agenda

1409
00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:27,359
is

1410
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:28,480
um

1411
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:30,720
that one i would recommend

1412
00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:34,400
um but but it's a deep dive

1413
00:51:37,910 --> 00:51:36,240
and he gets and the reason i think

1414
00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:37,920
that's an important book is because it's

1415
00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:39,920
kind of like he goes for everything

1416
00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:42,160
he gets really into the remote viewing

1417
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:43,920
and esp and

1418
00:51:47,829 --> 00:51:46,160
telepathy he gets into like

1419
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:47,839
you know who these intelligences

1420
00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:51,359
possibly are and what they're doing um

1421
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:53,599
so i mean going into it knowing that

1422
00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:55,440
it's not like a leslie keane book where

1423
00:51:59,670 --> 00:51:57,599
you're looking at um

1424
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:59,680
nothing but the hard facts

1425
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:00,480
yeah

1426
00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:02,720
and nothing else you know there's some

1427
00:52:08,069 --> 00:52:05,599
theory and speculation and and

1428
00:52:10,710 --> 00:52:08,079
you know subjective reporting but uh

1429
00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:10,720
it's it gives you the full scope man

1430
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:13,359
of like if you want to know everything

1431
00:52:17,190 --> 00:52:15,440
yeah well i guess maybe i'll have to

1432
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:17,200
read that i'm just finishing up

1433
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:20,319
operation trojan horse which oh no i

1434
00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:22,559
never i never actually read it i want it

1435
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:25,040
on my list it's destroying me yeah it's

1436
00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:27,760
great it's fantastic for sure you should

1437
00:52:33,829 --> 00:52:30,800
definitely read it uh yeah and is that

1438
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:33,839
so that's that's keel right yeah and and

1439
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:36,800
it's is he saying in that book that like

1440
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:38,640
this is all kind of like

1441
00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:42,000
one one paranormal entity

1442
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:44,400
taking place you know kind of disguising

1443
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:46,880
them as different intelligences yeah for

1444
00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:49,280
the most part in interdimensional

1445
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:51,920
um which is and that's the first time i

1446
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:54,240
heard someone describe like this video

1447
00:52:58,309 --> 00:52:56,800
of these amber orange orbs i have

1448
00:53:01,190 --> 00:52:58,319
yeah that's the first time i've heard

1449
00:53:02,630 --> 00:53:01,200
someone describe what those did like

1450
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:02,640
perfectly

1451
00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:04,160
you know because i i

1452
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:05,440
listened to the book

1453
00:53:09,910 --> 00:53:08,400
and he's talking about the story and i

1454
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:09,920
say they're orange when they're in

1455
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:11,920
takeoff mode or whatever

1456
00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:12,800
and

1457
00:53:17,349 --> 00:53:15,599
when they you know go upwards they turn

1458
00:53:20,309 --> 00:53:17,359
to white or whatever i'm like what the

1459
00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:20,319
hell that's exactly what happened yeah

1460
00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:22,480
this is crazy but yeah

1461
00:53:25,990 --> 00:53:24,079
and then he actually mentions like the

1462
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:26,000
first one to even think interdimensional

1463
00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:28,400
i forgot what his name was roy something

1464
00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:31,040
or ray something but he's from milwaukee

1465
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:33,920
my hometown oh no way oh man i wouldn't

1466
00:53:37,829 --> 00:53:36,240
have that name yeah i'm not sure because

1467
00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:37,839
yeah i never i didn't i haven't read

1468
00:53:41,349 --> 00:53:39,839
that book yet it's on my list uh eighth

1469
00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:41,359
tower is another

1470
00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:44,000
uh book that's on my list

1471
00:53:48,549 --> 00:53:45,839
about

1472
00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:48,559
um harmonic 33.

1473
00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:50,400
you know anything about that

1474
00:53:53,349 --> 00:53:52,640
no by chance

1475
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:53,359
it's

1476
00:54:01,190 --> 00:53:56,640
to

1477
00:54:04,069 --> 00:54:01,200
some point like it started with me

1478
00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:04,079
um looking at this ufo report

1479
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:05,920
overseas

1480
00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:08,160
and the captain mentioned and i looked

1481
00:54:14,950 --> 00:54:11,040
up the captain and the captain turns out

1482
00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:14,960
he wrote seven books on ufos

1483
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:17,920
and it's all about like um

1484
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:20,720
uh it's like a math basically a math

1485
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:24,480
solution for a ufo grid and stuff and

1486
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:26,880
it's like i haven't read it this is just

1487
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:29,760
like the notes i'm reading on it so

1488
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:31,680
it looks really interesting

1489
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:33,280
you should do a video on that man you

1490
00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:34,880
should do an episode on that because i

1491
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:36,160
would definitely watch it that sounds

1492
00:54:41,589 --> 00:54:38,960
awesome yeah okay cool and then i found

1493
00:54:47,109 --> 00:54:41,599
a band who called themselves harmonic 33

1494
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:49,109
so all right

1495
00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:49,920
yeah

1496
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:52,640
anything um man thanks so much for being

1497
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:54,880
kind and coming on here and you know

1498
00:54:59,109 --> 00:54:57,200
giving time to us

1499
00:55:01,030 --> 00:54:59,119
so thankful yeah i'm glad i'm joining

1500
00:55:02,950 --> 00:55:01,040
you guys man

1501
00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:02,960
my audience really loves when i do

1502
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:04,960
something called doc of the day do you

1503
00:55:09,510 --> 00:55:07,040
want to hang around for that

1504
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:09,520
sure it'll go real quick it's a it's a

1505
00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:12,000
quick duck

1506
00:55:18,549 --> 00:55:14,640
but uh it's you know i always have

1507
00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:21,109
ladies and gentlemen the document of the

1508
00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:22,880
day

1509
00:55:39,260 --> 00:55:37,040
[Music]

1510
00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:39,270
it's the dark of the day

1511
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:44,000
[Music]

1512
00:55:50,470 --> 00:55:49,030
that's like my favorite part of this

1513
00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:50,480
stuff is making those stupid little

1514
00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:54,870
so today's document of the day comes

1515
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:58,160
from a foreign ufo report and i'm just

1516
00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:00,480
gonna show you this part of it i'll get

1517
00:56:04,309 --> 00:56:02,960
into the whole thing at some point next

1518
00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:04,319
week

1519
00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:07,119
um but this is a sketch of a flying

1520
00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:08,240
object

1521
00:56:13,750 --> 00:56:10,079
that

1522
00:56:15,670 --> 00:56:13,760
was found overseas ufo report

1523
00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:15,680
and moondance

1524
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:19,040
was on the report

1525
00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:22,480
so this is pretty interesting

1526
00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:24,400
i can't make heads or tails of what it

1527
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:28,710
but here it is

1528
00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:30,480
so that's it

1529
00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:32,400
what where is it from

1530
00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:35,359
um it's actually just from a report

1531
00:56:41,349 --> 00:56:38,319
given to the dia

1532
00:56:42,829 --> 00:56:41,359
um from a sighting overseas

1533
00:56:47,589 --> 00:56:42,839
i think

1534
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:47,599
maybe um this one could be from

1535
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:49,680
there was one from korea thailand all

1536
00:56:54,309 --> 00:56:51,920
different types of places so one of

1537
00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:54,319
those but

1538
00:56:58,150 --> 00:56:56,240
i don't think it wound up being they

1539
00:56:59,829 --> 00:56:58,160
don't put the reports obviously like and

1540
00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:59,839
this is clearly

1541
00:57:03,829 --> 00:57:01,040
you know

1542
00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:03,839
extraterrestrial craft or anything every

1543
00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:06,640
you know it's just like this

1544
00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:07,359
yeah

1545
00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:09,680
here's the object

1546
00:57:14,549 --> 00:57:12,319
i don't know we investigated you know

1547
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:14,559
and then they don't tell you so

1548
00:57:17,589 --> 00:57:16,720
but yeah that's what i do

1549
00:57:20,549 --> 00:57:17,599
is there

1550
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:20,559
any contacts at all like uh yeah witness

1551
00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:23,520
reported such and such and yeah there's

1552
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:25,119
there's plenty of context i was just

1553
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:27,280
being silly showing just the picture

1554
00:57:30,309 --> 00:57:29,440
yeah um

1555
00:57:32,710 --> 00:57:30,319
and

1556
00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:32,720
but i do go through

1557
00:57:36,630 --> 00:57:34,640
a whole process typically on these but i

1558
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:36,640
didn't want to you know loop you in on

1559
00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:38,400
that whole thing

1560
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:40,319
so i'm doing a tease for some well dude

1561
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:42,720
next week yeah yeah cool um

1562
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:44,880
so that's pretty interesting

1563
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:46,240
and

1564
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:47,280
those

1565
00:57:50,549 --> 00:57:48,960
yeah the docs of the day are pretty good

1566
00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:50,559
because um

1567
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:52,960
i found some things from the 50s i don't

1568
00:57:57,270 --> 00:57:54,880
know if anyone's

1569
00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:57,280
even seen

1570
00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:58,880
here's another one it's a really bad

1571
00:58:01,670 --> 00:57:59,920
picture

1572
00:58:03,030 --> 00:58:01,680
yeah

1573
00:58:04,950 --> 00:58:03,040
uh

1574
00:58:06,309 --> 00:58:04,960
have you seen this one

1575
00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:06,319
i don't recall

1576
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:09,119
yeah a lot of the 1976

1577
00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:13,040
oh iranian english language newspaper

1578
00:58:17,349 --> 00:58:15,359
interesting

1579
00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:17,359
so that's the doc of the day

1580
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:19,520
yeah you'd have more fun if we planned

1581
00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:20,640
it out

1582
00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:21,520
yeah

1583
00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:23,280
do you put a link to the document in the

1584
00:58:28,069 --> 00:58:24,480
description

1585
00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:28,079
yeah so i think um it was either monday

1586
00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:31,200
or saturday or no monday i did a whole

1587
00:58:37,910 --> 00:58:34,480
thing about 19 1952

1588
00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:37,920
and this uh osi briefing i found

1589
00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:41,040
like two weeks after the dc sightings

1590
00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:42,240
yeah

1591
00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:44,559
and the osi briefing is i don't hear

1592
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:47,440
anyone talking about that one and there

1593
00:58:50,549 --> 00:58:49,280
they actually go through all the

1594
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:50,559
incidents

1595
00:58:55,470 --> 00:58:53,040
that have happened including talking

1596
00:58:57,109 --> 00:58:55,480
about sweden sightings in

1597
00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:57,119
1946

1598
00:59:01,589 --> 00:58:59,359
and they mentioned the mantel incident

1599
00:59:03,109 --> 00:59:01,599
and they don't say like

1600
00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:03,119
and mantel went up there and he saw a

1601
00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:04,960
balloon and crashed like they're

1602
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:06,720
mentioning these stories

1603
00:59:10,069 --> 00:59:07,920
as far as

1604
00:59:11,510 --> 00:59:10,079
what this phenomenon has been

1605
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:11,520
responsible for

1606
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:13,440
yeah so it's it's really interesting

1607
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:15,359
document for sure

1608
00:59:19,589 --> 00:59:17,200
yeah but i put that in like the show

1609
00:59:21,030 --> 00:59:19,599
notes and stuff so

1610
00:59:22,470 --> 00:59:21,040
so people want to look at it further

1611
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:22,480
they can

1612
00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:24,640
yeah but it's fun i like doing it

1613
00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:26,640
because we kind of learned together

1614
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:28,000
yeah that is cool man and there's

1615
00:59:31,510 --> 00:59:30,400
there's so many documents out there and

1616
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:31,520
um

1617
00:59:35,910 --> 00:59:33,680
i mean there's

1618
00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:35,920
you know the black balti i don't know

1619
00:59:39,349 --> 00:59:37,760
he's got he spoiled a lot of stuff he's

1620
00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:39,359
got like millions of documents oh

1621
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:40,559
totally

1622
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:43,680
like oh man how could you

1623
00:59:48,069 --> 00:59:45,680
i'm trying to just curate it you know

1624
00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:48,079
like yeah instead of having like a huge

1625
00:59:51,190 --> 00:59:49,839
see it just documents like this is

1626
00:59:55,430 --> 00:59:51,200
what's interesting

1627
00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:55,440
yeah yeah for sure man yeah all right

1628
00:59:59,990 --> 00:59:58,000
um any words of advice for us before you

1629
01:00:00,950 --> 01:00:00,000
go

1630
01:00:04,230 --> 01:00:00,960
man

1631
01:00:05,349 --> 01:00:04,240
watch watch the tom belong and send me

1632
01:00:07,990 --> 01:00:05,359
van

1633
01:00:11,030 --> 01:00:08,000
interview i know it's at 5 30

1634
01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:11,040
est so eastern standard time if you're

1635
01:00:15,270 --> 01:00:13,440
by new york it's going to be 5 30 if

1636
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:15,280
you're

1637
01:00:19,430 --> 01:00:17,440
what california is behind us right so

1638
01:00:20,549 --> 01:00:19,440
they're at 2 30

1639
01:00:22,150 --> 01:00:20,559
and uh

1640
01:00:23,349 --> 01:00:22,160
pacific time is going to be 2 30 i

1641
01:00:26,789 --> 01:00:23,359
believe

1642
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:26,799
and they are going to be what dr keating

1643
01:00:31,270 --> 01:00:29,680
uh it's on his youtube channel and

1644
01:00:32,789 --> 01:00:31,280
that kurt from the theory of

1645
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:32,799
everything's gonna be there that should

1646
01:00:35,910 --> 01:00:34,079
be

1647
01:00:37,750 --> 01:00:35,920
very interesting he usually runs long

1648
01:00:40,390 --> 01:00:37,760
interviews so i hope they do like a full

1649
01:00:43,349 --> 01:00:40,400
two three hours man yeah because i

1650
01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:43,359
submitted some pretty um

1651
01:00:47,109 --> 01:00:45,520
interesting questions so i hope they get

1652
01:00:48,549 --> 01:00:47,119
asked totally missed that i didn't even

1653
01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:48,559
know that was happening

1654
01:00:54,470 --> 01:00:51,760
um the question i'll do it okay

1655
01:00:57,030 --> 01:00:54,480
i'll do it um there's something in there

1656
01:00:58,470 --> 01:00:57,040
i'll just write what's my name again

1657
01:01:00,230 --> 01:00:58,480
yeah

1658
01:01:02,230 --> 01:01:00,240
i can answer this one there's a softball

1659
01:01:04,710 --> 01:01:02,240
i got it

1660
01:01:06,470 --> 01:01:04,720
but i i really hope that he that he's

1661
01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:06,480
he's kind of like his

1662
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:08,400
his bull because even on joe rogan i

1663
01:01:12,789 --> 01:01:11,040
mean tom delong was re i i'm surprised

1664
01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:12,799
he said some of the stuff he said yeah

1665
01:01:15,589 --> 01:01:14,160
that's the thing i love about tom delong

1666
01:01:17,109 --> 01:01:15,599
is he'll just

1667
01:01:17,910 --> 01:01:17,119
say stuff he's probably not supposed to

1668
01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:17,920
say

1669
01:01:23,670 --> 01:01:20,640
oopsie yeah

1670
01:01:26,230 --> 01:01:23,680
uh yeah watch that uh i would say the

1671
01:01:29,589 --> 01:01:26,240
the one for sure thing is

1672
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:29,599
you know i don't think him and semifin

1673
01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:31,920
would uh be doing this if they didn't

1674
01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:32,960
have

1675
01:01:37,430 --> 01:01:35,839
um something planned whatever it is

1676
01:01:39,190 --> 01:01:37,440
whether it's something

1677
01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:39,200
just like explaining what their

1678
01:01:43,990 --> 01:01:41,920
situation is now or whatever like there

1679
01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:44,000
there's a purpose behind it so

1680
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:46,319
yeah whatever that may be so i would

1681
01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:48,240
definitely watch it because what does

1682
01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:50,480
this happen once every three years now

1683
01:01:54,390 --> 01:01:52,720
i know he doesn't do ufo interviews

1684
01:01:56,470 --> 01:01:54,400
really much um

1685
01:01:58,549 --> 01:01:56,480
yeah he's been doing some media you know

1686
01:02:01,510 --> 01:01:58,559
like

1687
01:02:03,349 --> 01:02:01,520
uh rock or music interviews and they

1688
01:02:06,870 --> 01:02:03,359
bring up ufos but

1689
01:02:11,190 --> 01:02:06,880
yeah that's uh you got a better right

1690
01:02:16,630 --> 01:02:14,390
yeah so hopefully he uh

1691
01:02:18,789 --> 01:02:16,640
i you know they said the peter lavender

1692
01:02:20,789 --> 01:02:18,799
recently was talking about the books

1693
01:02:22,470 --> 01:02:20,799
and i don't know what where that

1694
01:02:24,230 --> 01:02:22,480
interview was from

1695
01:02:26,309 --> 01:02:24,240
um

1696
01:02:28,470 --> 01:02:26,319
it was i had never heard of the podcast

1697
01:02:30,470 --> 01:02:28,480
or whatever but he said

1698
01:02:32,309 --> 01:02:30,480
his book is done they're just waiting to

1699
01:02:34,870 --> 01:02:32,319
release it basically

1700
01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:34,880
in a movie

1701
01:02:38,789 --> 01:02:36,960
okay yeah so tom delong has

1702
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:38,799
like that's almost done

1703
01:02:43,349 --> 01:02:41,280
yeah monsters in l.a or something i'm

1704
01:02:46,549 --> 01:02:43,359
not sure what it's called i believe that

1705
01:02:49,029 --> 01:02:46,559
it's monsters and damn yeah

1706
01:02:51,190 --> 01:02:49,039
that's that's how you start working on

1707
01:02:55,109 --> 01:02:51,200
your own you just invite this guy to

1708
01:02:57,029 --> 01:02:55,119
every podcast you have one an hour

1709
01:02:58,549 --> 01:02:57,039
and you're making decent cash

1710
01:03:01,349 --> 01:02:58,559
yeah

1711
01:03:02,630 --> 01:03:01,359
thanks dude vinnie you're awesome

1712
01:03:03,990 --> 01:03:02,640
so yeah but i

1713
01:03:06,630 --> 01:03:04,000
i think that's a

1714
01:03:08,309 --> 01:03:06,640
they were originally uh you know years

1715
01:03:10,230 --> 01:03:08,319
ago they were talking about

1716
01:03:12,710 --> 01:03:10,240
secret machines

1717
01:03:16,470 --> 01:03:12,720
right um movies

1718
01:03:18,549 --> 01:03:16,480
and i mean personally i don't know if

1719
01:03:20,950 --> 01:03:18,559
have you read the uh the fiction books

1720
01:03:23,589 --> 01:03:20,960
i've read secret machines yeah yeah the

1721
01:03:26,069 --> 01:03:23,599
uh the um

1722
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:26,079
yeah the chase chasing shadows right

1723
01:03:32,309 --> 01:03:30,400
uh yep yeah yeah so that was great it

1724
01:03:34,789 --> 01:03:32,319
would be a great movie i mean for a

1725
01:03:37,349 --> 01:03:34,799
fiction movie you know it sounds

1726
01:03:38,789 --> 01:03:37,359
entertaining i i found you know

1727
01:03:41,670 --> 01:03:38,799
uh i don't

1728
01:03:42,789 --> 01:03:41,680
i wanna say like i never read uh fiction

1729
01:03:44,950 --> 01:03:42,799
books

1730
01:03:46,950 --> 01:03:44,960
um it's funny you say that

1731
01:03:49,109 --> 01:03:46,960
i don't like fiction books really i i

1732
01:03:51,190 --> 01:03:49,119
don't like for me i that's what i'm i

1733
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:51,200
why if i'm gonna watch a movie i'll

1734
01:03:53,990 --> 01:03:52,480
watch a movie

1735
01:03:56,710 --> 01:03:54,000
uh but when when it comes to reading i

1736
01:03:58,630 --> 01:03:56,720
feel like i'm wasting my time

1737
01:03:59,910 --> 01:03:58,640
i've never heard anyone else say that

1738
01:04:02,309 --> 01:03:59,920
that's awesome

1739
01:04:03,109 --> 01:04:02,319
it's it's like i i

1740
01:04:09,589 --> 01:04:03,119
i

1741
01:04:11,990 --> 01:04:09,599
you know

1742
01:04:15,270 --> 01:04:12,000
when i was younger yeah i read like rl

1743
01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:15,280
stein and all that i guess yeah um but

1744
01:04:18,789 --> 01:04:17,200
yeah no one once i started getting into

1745
01:04:20,470 --> 01:04:18,799
research i'm like if i'm reading

1746
01:04:22,630 --> 01:04:20,480
something it's not like

1747
01:04:23,829 --> 01:04:22,640
practical in some way i can use it or

1748
01:04:26,710 --> 01:04:23,839
i'm gonna help understand something

1749
01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:26,720
better it's wasting my time um but there

1750
01:04:31,589 --> 01:04:28,720
were there were nuggets like that in the

1751
01:04:33,510 --> 01:04:31,599
um in the chasing shadows

1752
01:04:35,270 --> 01:04:33,520
they had that he had the type the

1753
01:04:37,510 --> 01:04:35,280
section title for

1754
01:04:41,109 --> 01:04:37,520
how um special access programs are

1755
01:04:43,109 --> 01:04:41,119
waived so there there's some legitimate

1756
01:04:45,270 --> 01:04:43,119
information in there but again what are

1757
01:04:46,630 --> 01:04:45,280
from the advisors it's

1758
01:04:49,990 --> 01:04:46,640
it's a plausible

1759
01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:50,000
deniability ploy it works oh totally

1760
01:04:54,390 --> 01:04:52,480
yeah it's fact and fiction so at that

1761
01:04:55,510 --> 01:04:54,400
point you can pretty much say whatever

1762
01:04:57,589 --> 01:04:55,520
that's what i mean so you don't know

1763
01:05:00,069 --> 01:04:57,599
which is which but yeah that part's

1764
01:05:03,670 --> 01:05:00,079
frustrating yeah but i mean we know that

1765
01:05:05,910 --> 01:05:03,680
tom delong is a big kind of um

1766
01:05:08,950 --> 01:05:05,920
proponent for the tr-3b

1767
01:05:11,109 --> 01:05:08,960
even though louis lozano is not oh yeah

1768
01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:11,119
he is and he says in that book he

1769
01:05:15,829 --> 01:05:12,720
describes how

1770
01:05:18,870 --> 01:05:15,839
um the humans fly in the triangle right

1771
01:05:20,390 --> 01:05:18,880
yeah yeah the triangles are ours

1772
01:05:21,990 --> 01:05:20,400
um

1773
01:05:24,710 --> 01:05:22,000
and

1774
01:05:26,789 --> 01:05:24,720
you know there's been some i i think

1775
01:05:28,069 --> 01:05:26,799
uh

1776
01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:28,079
i don't want to i don't i can't speak

1777
01:05:32,309 --> 01:05:30,400
for ross but i think in one of his his

1778
01:05:34,069 --> 01:05:32,319
interviews on unidentified celebrity

1779
01:05:36,789 --> 01:05:34,079
review he did yesterday

1780
01:05:39,109 --> 01:05:36,799
i think he was kind of talking about me

1781
01:05:40,390 --> 01:05:39,119
like it's possible somebody was somebody

1782
01:05:42,870 --> 01:05:40,400
he spoke to was leaning in that

1783
01:05:44,630 --> 01:05:42,880
direction too like the triangles

1784
01:05:45,430 --> 01:05:44,640
could be ours

1785
01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:45,440
you know

1786
01:05:49,029 --> 01:05:47,920
of of all the the reported sightings and

1787
01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:49,039
stuff

1788
01:05:52,390 --> 01:05:50,640
um

1789
01:05:53,910 --> 01:05:52,400
if there was any kind of reverse

1790
01:05:55,430 --> 01:05:53,920
engineered tech

1791
01:05:57,270 --> 01:05:55,440
that uh

1792
01:05:59,270 --> 01:05:57,280
that was ours it would it would be the

1793
01:06:01,349 --> 01:05:59,280
triangles out of all of them yeah you

1794
01:06:03,910 --> 01:06:01,359
know that makes sen the most sense i

1795
01:06:06,670 --> 01:06:03,920
guess well you know that they reverse

1796
01:06:09,430 --> 01:06:06,680
engineer stuff i just looked at a

1797
01:06:11,349 --> 01:06:09,440
n-a-i-s-c document today

1798
01:06:13,430 --> 01:06:11,359
talking about how they work with foreign

1799
01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:13,440
materials they

1800
01:06:18,870 --> 01:06:16,720
go procure it they find it they do deals

1801
01:06:20,069 --> 01:06:18,880
back room alley weird deals and

1802
01:06:21,750 --> 01:06:20,079
everything they say right on their

1803
01:06:22,789 --> 01:06:21,760
website and

1804
01:06:25,109 --> 01:06:22,799
um

1805
01:06:26,230 --> 01:06:25,119
and then they reverse engineer it

1806
01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:26,240
to learn it

1807
01:06:30,390 --> 01:06:27,280
so

1808
01:06:33,029 --> 01:06:30,400
all that has to exist is one piece of

1809
01:06:34,870 --> 01:06:33,039
alien technology and you can it's

1810
01:06:36,230 --> 01:06:34,880
guaranteed they tried to reverse

1811
01:06:38,069 --> 01:06:36,240
engineer it

1812
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:38,079
yeah of course

1813
01:06:42,150 --> 01:06:40,000
yeah yeah

1814
01:06:44,470 --> 01:06:42,160
and i think it was

1815
01:06:47,190 --> 01:06:44,480
i don't know david marler would would be

1816
01:06:48,150 --> 01:06:47,200
the best

1817
01:06:49,750 --> 01:06:48,160
yeah

1818
01:06:52,150 --> 01:06:49,760
he's afraid

1819
01:06:53,910 --> 01:06:52,160
have you had him on yeah

1820
01:06:55,190 --> 01:06:53,920
yeah okay yeah yeah i thought you did

1821
01:06:58,069 --> 01:06:55,200
and uh

1822
01:06:58,870 --> 01:06:58,079
yeah i've actually never spoken

1823
01:07:00,390 --> 01:06:58,880
oh

1824
01:07:02,630 --> 01:07:00,400
see

1825
01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:02,640
gotta wear the rolling stone shirt

1826
01:07:06,789 --> 01:07:04,480
yeah

1827
01:07:08,069 --> 01:07:06,799
he's great man um you should totally

1828
01:07:10,150 --> 01:07:08,079
talk to him

1829
01:07:13,270 --> 01:07:10,160
yeah he was on uh what he was on

1830
01:07:15,750 --> 01:07:13,280
unidentified right too uh

1831
01:07:17,190 --> 01:07:15,760
i don't know i don't think so

1832
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:17,200
what show was it then there was another

1833
01:07:20,069 --> 01:07:18,480
show that came after that that was like

1834
01:07:22,630 --> 01:07:20,079
a pretty big show and i was like oh my

1835
01:07:24,309 --> 01:07:22,640
god they had david marlar on here

1836
01:07:26,470 --> 01:07:24,319
um

1837
01:07:29,270 --> 01:07:26,480
freaking but yeah he's he's one of the

1838
01:07:32,230 --> 01:07:29,280
big reasons i mean he's a big triangle

1839
01:07:33,829 --> 01:07:32,240
he's a big triangle guy yeah and i asked

1840
01:07:36,549 --> 01:07:33,839
him a lot of questions about it that's

1841
01:07:39,109 --> 01:07:36,559
for sure um what was your impression

1842
01:07:41,589 --> 01:07:39,119
from that interview did he did he say

1843
01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:41,599
it's possibly um like black black world

1844
01:07:44,950 --> 01:07:43,119
technology or

1845
01:07:46,150 --> 01:07:44,960
possibly something other

1846
01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:46,160
he's

1847
01:07:50,870 --> 01:07:48,400
like pretty much what everyone else says

1848
01:07:54,150 --> 01:07:50,880
it's like there's not enough to say one

1849
01:07:55,430 --> 01:07:54,160
thing or the other yeah you know but he

1850
01:07:57,430 --> 01:07:55,440
um does

1851
01:07:58,950 --> 01:07:57,440
make a point to say

1852
01:08:00,390 --> 01:07:58,960
and he could be hinting at something

1853
01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:00,400
when he says this

1854
01:08:06,630 --> 01:08:04,240
is out of all the reports that he has of

1855
01:08:08,829 --> 01:08:06,640
triangles there is not one

1856
01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:08,839
of it landing

1857
01:08:13,589 --> 01:08:11,520
yeah so that's

1858
01:08:14,789 --> 01:08:13,599
something different

1859
01:08:16,630 --> 01:08:14,799
you know

1860
01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:16,640
that's what people would call

1861
01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:22,070
what that what the clue leads to i have

1862
01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:24,400
no idea but and i'm not sure he does

1863
01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:27,120
either but it is

1864
01:08:30,789 --> 01:08:29,199
something to notice yeah because you

1865
01:08:32,709 --> 01:08:30,799
have the saucers and

1866
01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:32,719
these other objects landing at different

1867
01:08:34,789 --> 01:08:33,520
uh

1868
01:08:37,030 --> 01:08:34,799
yeah

1869
01:08:38,870 --> 01:08:37,040
but didn't it land in um

1870
01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:38,880
rendelshim

1871
01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:40,400
yeah well yeah i think it was already

1872
01:08:45,269 --> 01:08:42,960
landed oh okay

1873
01:08:46,630 --> 01:08:45,279
yeah oh no i don't think he said

1874
01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:46,640
than landing

1875
01:08:49,349 --> 01:08:48,000
yeah yeah

1876
01:08:50,950 --> 01:08:49,359
but that's what i thought of right away

1877
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:50,960
when i hear him say that i was like well

1878
01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:53,040
what about randall

1879
01:08:57,910 --> 01:08:55,679
that was definitely in the ground

1880
01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:57,920
did they did he cover does he cover

1881
01:09:02,149 --> 01:08:59,759
randall from his book or anything yeah

1882
01:09:04,950 --> 01:09:02,159
maybe not because it's overseas but i

1883
01:09:06,550 --> 01:09:04,960
did find a noah report on it which was

1884
01:09:07,510 --> 01:09:06,560
pretty cool

1885
01:09:10,630 --> 01:09:07,520
on

1886
01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:10,640
oh wow

1887
01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:12,880
yeah yeah that's a big i mean that's a

1888
01:09:17,749 --> 01:09:15,600
that's a really uh important case and

1889
01:09:19,349 --> 01:09:17,759
you know yeah ross covered that too in

1890
01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:19,359
in plain sight

1891
01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:20,880
yeah it's just like i never know what

1892
01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:23,040
anyone else knows so i show people i'm

1893
01:09:26,149 --> 01:09:24,400
like hey this is cool i know we're

1894
01:09:28,229 --> 01:09:26,159
reported on rainbow shrimp and just move

1895
01:09:29,829 --> 01:09:28,239
on to the next one

1896
01:09:32,229 --> 01:09:29,839
i didn't know that they had that that's

1897
01:09:34,390 --> 01:09:32,239
weird and it's funny yeah louis lozando

1898
01:09:35,669 --> 01:09:34,400
before he mentioned noah that's why i

1899
01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:35,679
went looking

1900
01:09:39,269 --> 01:09:37,120
yeah

1901
01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:39,279
so maybe someone smartered me should

1902
01:09:47,189 --> 01:09:45,189
who could make me find something

1903
01:09:48,950 --> 01:09:47,199
interesting did you put on one of your

1904
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:48,960
documents of the day

1905
01:09:53,110 --> 01:09:50,880
yeah i'll just send it to you yeah i

1906
01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:53,120
think i still have it in my uh library i

1907
01:09:57,669 --> 01:09:54,400
found it on

1908
01:09:59,189 --> 01:09:57,679
cia just for you you know there's so

1909
01:10:01,030 --> 01:09:59,199
much stuff on there

1910
01:10:02,950 --> 01:10:01,040
if you know what to look for

1911
01:10:04,470 --> 01:10:02,960
they got the gateway stuff talking about

1912
01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:04,480
um

1913
01:10:08,630 --> 01:10:05,760
sun streak

1914
01:10:11,350 --> 01:10:08,640
uh grill flame those are all rv projects

1915
01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:11,360
yeah anomalous mental phenomena they did

1916
01:10:16,790 --> 01:10:13,920
that study with saic

1917
01:10:19,189 --> 01:10:16,800
um oh did you notice in um that thing

1918
01:10:22,149 --> 01:10:19,199
that just came out with the

1919
01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:22,159
uh more dod'd or

1920
01:10:26,149 --> 01:10:24,320
uaptf directives

1921
01:10:27,510 --> 01:10:26,159
like that document that came out

1922
01:10:28,830 --> 01:10:27,520
recently

1923
01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:28,840
yeah

1924
01:10:33,030 --> 01:10:31,199
um i don't know if anyone's else done

1925
01:10:36,149 --> 01:10:33,040
this but i've like went through that

1926
01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:36,159
whole document and there's a part on

1927
01:10:41,590 --> 01:10:39,600
anomalous uh health issues

1928
01:10:42,790 --> 01:10:41,600
and oh really and it talks about

1929
01:10:46,310 --> 01:10:42,800
headaches

1930
01:10:50,470 --> 01:10:48,229
they make a pretty big deal out of it

1931
01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:50,480
and it reminds me of maybe what those

1932
01:10:55,750 --> 01:10:53,520
emp attacks do

1933
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:55,760
oh like havana

1934
01:10:59,830 --> 01:10:56,880
yeah yeah

1935
01:11:02,630 --> 01:10:59,840
so i gotta bring that out but yeah they

1936
01:11:05,110 --> 01:11:02,640
call it anomalous health something

1937
01:11:07,750 --> 01:11:05,120
and it's a pretty big chapter on it or a

1938
01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:07,760
section so i'll find it

1939
01:11:14,470 --> 01:11:09,360
yeah

1940
01:11:18,390 --> 01:11:14,480
so

1941
01:11:19,990 --> 01:11:18,400
my daughter to bed sat in my headphones

1942
01:11:22,149 --> 01:11:20,000
i'm listening to you guys oh you guys

1943
01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:22,159
can keep talking i just need a break

1944
01:11:26,790 --> 01:11:23,920
no it's all good i've got i've got yeah

1945
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:26,800
i got i got i got the kiddos too oh you

1946
01:11:31,110 --> 01:11:28,690
guys are sharing the excuse book now

1947
01:11:33,189 --> 01:11:31,120
[Laughter]

1948
01:11:36,149 --> 01:11:33,199
clearly

1949
01:11:40,070 --> 01:11:36,159
he's tony stark i'm captain america

1950
01:11:41,990 --> 01:11:40,080
doctor strange alone again

1951
01:11:43,990 --> 01:11:42,000
all right guys well at least you got to

1952
01:11:45,990 --> 01:11:44,000
come back and see

1953
01:11:47,830 --> 01:11:46,000
everybody yeah so

1954
01:11:49,750 --> 01:11:47,840
um stay in touch

1955
01:11:53,030 --> 01:11:49,760
absolutely of course

1956
01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:53,040
uh oh damn i didn't even do this stupid

1957
01:11:58,070 --> 01:11:55,120
banner where i had all your info on it

1958
01:11:59,910 --> 01:11:58,080
guys i'm sorry oh no no let's start over

1959
01:12:01,669 --> 01:11:59,920
can you can we start this thing over all

1960
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right we've got another hour to cool

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we're hanging out i got engaging the

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phenomenon here and disclosure team

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they're uh

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their twitter names are at the bottom so

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go follow them fast forward thanks guys

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for hanging out we will thank you man

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we'll speak to you both real soon yeah

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yeah yeah take care appreciate it see

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all right that was fun awesome dudes

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really cool

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um really love talking to them

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it's a breeze it's easy i always learn

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something

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so

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yeah that was fun

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did you guys have one

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all right anyways um pretty soon guys um

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if you could like subscribe this video

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if you're watching um internet signed in

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sign in and subscribe

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um pretty soon i'm going to

1982
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um make a lot of

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the backlog and the content that i have

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only available to subscribers

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um just not like the big interviews but

1986
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like these docs of the days and stuff

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and and whatnot

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um so make sure you're subscribing

1989
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and uh i'm gonna start putting together

1990
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my own like analysis or thesis of

1991
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um how

1992
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how the government handled the ufo

1993
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situation through the 70s

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from 1947 or 46

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and what i think of it based on the

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documents and no influence from anybody

1997
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else because i'm new here so it'll be

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interesting

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so stay tuned for that

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um otherwise yeah that's it i love you

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guys thanks for hanging out you make it

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all worth it

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so

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i appreciate you

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but now

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i gotta go

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see you tomorrow

2008
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there's footage and records of

2009
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objects in the skies that we

2010
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don't know exactly what they are we

2011
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can't explain

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uh

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how they moved

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their trajectory type of um activity

2015
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that uh some might

2016
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say uh constitutes a a different form of

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performs

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in a fashion that has not yet come to be

2019
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something that people are

2020
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comfortable with or expecting to to to

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see

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we have uh

2023
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lots of reports about what we call uh

2024
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unidentified aerial phenomenon there are

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a lot more sightings than have been made

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public sometimes we wonder whether or

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not our adversaries have technologies

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that are a little bit further down the

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road than we thought or that we realized

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it's logical you want to know what it is

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i miss common sense right stuff's flying

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over the top of your most sensitive

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installations and it's not ours and no

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one knows whose it is we we can't rule

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out something that's otherworldly but

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that's a very small percentage uh people

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want members of the government to say

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it's extraterrestrial we won't stop

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there but some key takeaways i'd have is

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that the um

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the military and others are taking this

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issue seriously which i think in